The Great Reset & The Deep State

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Welcome to making sense of the madness time to expand your thinking. I'm your host, Sean Morgan. I'm stepping in for John Michael Chambers. He's taken a bit of a health break. He'll be back in about a month. And in the meantime, he's going to keep on doing his Sunday podcast for premium subscribers. And he's going to be doing a few high profile interviews in the meantime as well. So John's doing fine and I'm just taking his place for the meantime. All right, well, let's get right into the breaking news was going to be interesting. I've got two themes for the day. One is military escalation, and the other is the fact that the GOP seems to be on the offensive. So let's dig right into it. So first of all, Russia is launching it's the biggest Pacific exercise since the cold war.

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And this is at the same time the Putin and Biden are meeting right now in Europe. Let's take a look at that on the screen. And on the other side of the world, you know, Biden, Bladimir Putin are meeting face-to-face, but 300 miles off the coast of Hawaii. Russia is quietly launching one of the largest Naval exercises since the cold war. And this sent some fighter jets in Hawaii, scrambling to go check to see what the Russians were doing. Now, the Russians did not invade the American airspace or anything, but it certainly is a show of force during this critical time when Joe Biden's doing a lot of tough talk against Putin.

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And so this is a pretty interesting to see this type of military show of force at this time, but it's not just Russia. It's not just the United States responding to this Russian show of force. It's also China. Let's take a look at the next article where China's sending a record 28 fighter jets invading that that airspace that's disputed in Taiwan, right after, right after this issue from NATO where, you know, they were basically acknowledged the China was a security challenge. And so this seems to be a direct re military response from that diplomatic message, just 28 fighter jets.

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That's quite a show of force as so, you know, while China has over the past few months since Biden took office flown near daily groups of aircraft and bombers near or in Taiwan, contested airspace, the latest comes as Biden as in Europe, shoring up support among allies for a tougher United front against Beijing. So let's go to the next thing on the screen, which is Biden's NATO warning to Putin. If you don't cooperate, we will respond. And I have to say, this is quite an impotent and a lame kind of confrontation from Biden. I mean, if you look at the videos of them meeting, you know, you can tell who seems to be in control and who seems to be clueless.

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And during Biden's Monday press conference at the end of the NATO summit in Brussels Biden said, I will tell you this, I'm going to make clear to president Putin, that there are areas where we can cooperate if he chooses. And if he chooses not to cooperate and acts in a way that he has in the past relative to cyber security and some kind of activities, then we will respond and we will respond in kind. So that was Biden trying to put on a tough face with Putin, but I have to say it doesn't really seem like it worked because they're Putin in the wild Biden was just using words. Putin was showing 300 miles off the coast of Hawaii. Exactly who the real tough guy is.

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And I'm. And so, you know, no matter what Biden says, Putin's actions are stronger than Biden's words. Let's look at what the U S military is up to UN the next article, how the U S Indo-Pacific commander is requesting $890 million to strengthen military equipment in Guam, Alaska, and Hawaii. Now, why do you think this military commander needs almost a billion dollars and those specific geographical regions, it's pretty obvious it's in the east. The threat is in the east. The threat is specifically China, and he wasn't afraid to name China as the Erie.

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The reason why he's requesting almost a billion dollars, let's take a look at the war. And the escalation that continues to happen in the middle east is the ceasefire actually over because the Israeli jets are attacking after the Hamas sent some balloons, that's a, you know, caught things on fire. So they sent some incendiary balloons in Gaza. And so 20 fires were sparked by these balloons and a Israel military aircraft attack, Tomas compounds after this kind of thing. So it doesn't look like much of a cease fire to me. So you've got Russia doing these military exercises, China doing major military exercises.

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You've got the us requesting a billion dollars to, to fight China. And now in the middle east, you got the Israel Iran type of dynamic with Hamas being a proxy. So military escalation is happening worldwide. I'm going to keep on following up in future episodes and making sense of the madness to track this military escalation as well. So let's take a look at the next topic, which is a Fox 26 reporter ivory Hecker is releasing just like we talked about yesterday. She's releasing the facts about how she was censored by Fox news.

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And this is really interesting because yesterday we talked about how she was on live TV. And she said to everybody, I am going to release the secret bombshells of how Fox is censoring me. And, you know, she didn't live on air while she was delivering a weather report and a, and then she got fired because she did that. And now today she did that interview with project Veritas and she laid it all out. Very specifically, who in the Fox organization was censoring her and what they were censoring her about. And I found it especially interesting that it was kind of mid-level producers who were really, really, really against her doing any type of investigative reporting regarding COVID 19 and hydroxy chloroquine.

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So this is interesting because you had even people at the very top of the organization who were pro-Trump and were kind of on her side and encouraging her. And yet it was these mid-level lower level producers who are just completely going lockstep with the mainstream narrative and trying to muzzle her and stop her from doing her job. And so this is beautiful to see at this critical juncture in American history, to see people like this local reporter standing up and showing the truth, that this is how people in the journalism industry are controlled. And so this is waking people up to the fact that hydroxy chloric, when could be an effective and safe treatment for COVID-19.

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And yet it was censored into was stopped. Why is their agenda behind that? And so go to project Veritas, just do a search for them. You can find this interview and you can see the full 20 minute interview where she lays it all out about how they wouldn't let her do stories about Bitcoin, about hydroxy, chloroquine, about censorship. She lays it all out there, and she's a hero. And I hope that she has a bright future in journalism as a result. The next story I want to get into is this January 6th hoax that we've been covering first, let's look on the screen, how the FBI and the department of Homeland security attempted to recruit a green Baret to infiltrate Oathkeepers right before the January 6th riot.

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And guess what he recorded the whole thing. That's the right. This guy is the Patriots. He wanted to join the oath keepers to defend the constitution. And he was approached by the government, two separate organizations, FBI, and DHS. They took him out to dinner and he was, he was recording the whole thing. And within 38 seconds of them talking to him at this dinner, they started recruiting him to infiltrate the oath keepers. So this is very interesting because this is blowing up. This is going mainstream about how the government itself is implicated. And we're going to keep on going down this line of thinking.

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Let's look at the next story about how the proud boys is already infiltrated by the FBI. In fact, the leader of the whole organization is openly an FBI informant. This is in a Forbes magazine. So if proud boys and Oathkeepers, and everybody has FBI informants in them, then you know, that's something that we should definitely be paying close attention to. And luckily the GOP, certain elements of the GOP are actually standing up and asking these types of questions. So let's take a look at how Matt gates is calling on the FBI director, Christopher Ray, to fully disclose the roll and involvement of FBI operatives during the January six capital riot.

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This is a letter he sent today. This is breaking news. And so we need answers. We need to find out if the FBI was involved and we're going to press even deeper into this issue. Take a look at America's Congressman Paul, go SAR, pressing Christopher Ray about the identity of the officer who shot and killed Ashley Babbitt. Let's take a look at that video.

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So now switching gears again, director re do you know who the executed Ashley Babbitt? No, I don't know the name of the person. Right? So do you agree that Ashley Babbitt was unarmed?

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No, I really can't weigh in on the facts and circumstances of that case, as you may know, that was investigated by the DC Metro's internal affairs department with the DOJ civil rights division on the us attorney's office and the investigative agency.

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It's a disturbing, the Capitol police officer that did the shooting actually appeared, appeared to be hiding, lying in wait. And they gave no warning before. Killing her question again. Why hasn't that officer that executed Ashley Babbitt been named when police officers around the country, our routinely identified after the shooting

1 (11m 47s):
Throw on that case. It's not one that we've been directly involved in. So I really can't agree or disagree with your characterization.

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Sounds good. Do you approve of lethal force against unarmed citizens, particularly 110 pound woman with no warning? No use of no, no use of non-lethal force prior and well laying and wait,

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Not going to try to answer a hypothetical, especially based on the case that I just

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Said that it wasn't the hypothetical that's actually what happened.

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So luckily there are some people in the GOP who are asking the right questions and they're putting pressure on these bureaucrats. And I think we're going to get to the bottom of this president. Trump has been interestingly, very quiet on these, this subject. And there's been a vacuum, you know, because Trump's not talking about it. Someone else has to step in, step up and talk about it. Besides people like us in the alternative media. So the GOP is finding a backbone and they're doing it finally, but also Vladimir Putin is we're going to get into that a little bit later, but let's first go into this video from Tucker Carlson because the FBI operatives possibly were organizing the attack on the capital.

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And Tucker goes into the detail about the documents that show these unindicted co-conspirators let's let's watch that video

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Urgently because as the attorney general reminded us today, a lot depends on the answers. And at least one news organization is asking that revolver news it's a new site. It turned out to be one of the last honest outlets on the internet. A new piece on revolver.news suggests an answer to some of these questions. We know that the government is hiding the identity of many law enforcement officers who were present at the Capitol on January 6th, not just the one who killed Ashley Babbitt, according to the government's own court filings those law enforcement officers participated in the riot sometimes in violent ways. We know that because without fail, the government has thrown the book and most people who are present in the capital and January 6th, and it was a nationwide drag net defined them.

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And many of them are still in solitary confinement tonight. But strangely some of the key people who participated on January 6th have not been charged. Look at the document, the government calls those people unindicted co-conspirators what does that mean? Well, it means that and potentially every single case, they were FBI operatives really in the Capitol on January 6th, for example, one of those unindicted co-conspirators is someone government documents identify only as person two, according to those documents person, two stayed in the same hotel room as a man called Thomas Caldwell and insurrectionists a man alleged to be a member of the group, the oath keepers person to also quote, stormed the barricades at the capital and January 6th, alongside Thomas Caldwell, the government's indictments further indicate the call blue, by the way, the 65 year old man is dangerous.

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Insurrectionists was led to believe there would be a quick reaction force. Also participating on January 6th, that quick reaction force Caldwell was told would be led by someone called person three, who had a hotel room and an accomplished with them. But wait, here's the interesting thing, person two and person three organizers have the riot. The government knows who they are, but the government has not charged them. Why is that? You know why they were almost certainly working for the FBI. So FBI operatives were organizing the attack on the Capitol on January six, according to the government documents.

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And those two are not alone.

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So, you know, Tucker's really driving it home that these FBI agents, the FBI, the CIA, these three-letter agencies, they're rotten to the core. They're part of the deep state. They have a bad agenda. And you know, what's interesting is that John Cardillo really just sum this up perfectly because we know that the FBI, the CIA, these types of organizations, if they do infiltrate bad militias or whatever, they're supposed to stop riots and insurrections and kidnappings and murders before they happen. But instead they're actually making them happen.

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Let's let's see that, that on the screen, what John Cardillo had to say about FBI operatives, getting involved in these types of things, let's simplify this FBI concocted, the plot to kidnap governor. Whitmer had their operatives act as kidnappers and found a bunch of moron Patsies that they labeled as Trump supporters and conservatives. It appears they did the exact same thing on January 6th. It's time to abolish the FBI. Yeah. So John makes a really good point here. I mean, there are so many unanswered questions about not only that operation and what the governor Whitmer, but with January six, all these pipe bombs that were supposedly put there, you know, the Ashley Babbitt case where we don't know who shot her and why they shot her and why he hasn't had any type of, you know, any type of investigation into him.

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And then you have these, this police officer, officer Brian sickening, who died of a heart attack the next day. And the mainstream media was saying that he got hit with a fire extinguisher, but it wasn't true. And then you had several police officers who died of suicides right after January six. So this is a deep state thing. We know the Antifa and BLM were embedded there. We know that CNN was embedded there. We've got Patriots who were led in the door by the police who 300 of the 800, we're just let through the front door. They were waved in buy the DC police. And now some of those people are in solitary confinement and they're being, they're suffering under strange and unusual punishment.

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So I, I do think there's a reason that Trump is silent on this, that Trump is waiting for the right moment to pounce on this. When the evidence is a smoking gun. In the meantime, it does give the GOP a chance to step up. And it, interestingly also allowed Putin to also talk about it. So let's, let's take a listen to what Putin had to say about this whole thing. Let's listen to his video. Now

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Recently had very severe events after well-known events. After the, after the killing killing of an African-American <inaudible> and an entire movement developed, known as black. I'm not going to comment on that, but here's what I do want to say. What we saw was disorder, destruction, violations of the law, et cetera. We feel sympathy for the United States of America, but we don't want that to happen on our territory. And we're doing the utmost in order to not allow it to happen. And there's some fears. It hasn't nothing to do with anything.

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Please.

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Could you give me the microphone please? You didn't answer my question, sir. If all of your political opponents are dead in prison, poison doesn't that send a message that you do not want a fair political fight. The

4 (19m 36s):
Past for who is killing, whom I throwing whom in jail was the people came to the U S Congress with political demands, 400 people, over 400 people had criminal charges placed on them. They face prison sentences up to 20, maybe even 25 years, they're being called domestic terrorists, or they're being accused of a number of other crimes. And the 70 of them were arrested right away after the events. And 30 of them are still under arrest. It's unclear on what grounds he's extended to you.

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And as for the, nobody for the official authorities has informed us about the noise with just some people, some people died. And what are the people that died? The was simply Schott on the spot by or the police. And although they were not threatening the police with any weapons in many countries at the same thing happens, it happens in our country. I would like to stress once the more that we sympathize with what happened in the United States, but we have no desire to allow the same thing to happen in our country. Just a couple of more questions, because later the president we'll continue and his program, please pan over the microphone.

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<inaudible> were you able to reach an agreement on returning some of the Russians that ended up in the American prisons? If yes. In and when will it happen? We talked about it, the president by,

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So there you have it than the president of Russia is standing up for conservative political dissidents. And you have Tulsi gabber who is a Democrat, also doing the same thing. So it makes you wonder, where has the GOP been since January 6th? But you know, I've met the liberal heads are just exploding after they listened to that type of response, because there's just some kind of cognitive dissonance. When you listen to that and you try to hold one belief about how it was an insurrection. And then you hear the facts about how an unarmed person was killed by the police. So, you know, this is waking people up. This is the great awakening.

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Sometimes it comes from the most unlikely source for the they'll have me here, Putin, but its happening and it's a slow, slow at first, but it builds up. It becomes a tidal wave. And so I'm looking forward to that and now I'm going to get into how the GOP and how different people are just standing up for what's right. It's beautiful to see, let's take a look at how Biden's oil and gas lease ban was blocked by a federal judge. So this, this federal judge in Louisiana blocked Joe Biden's suspension of new oil and gas leases on federal land and water. And that's delivering a setback to his administration's efforts to transition away from fossil fuels.

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Technically the injunction amounts to a halt have the Biden administrations suspension of new drilling permits with the nationwide effect. So, you know, this is kind of a temporary measure. This is still playing out in the courts, but Biden is getting some pushback from the judiciary branch with his new great reset plan to just end oil and gas as fast as possible. So it's good to see. I mean, in Louisiana, you know, it's like a significant percentage of their entire economy is from offshore drilling. And so yeah, they, they have a major incentive to keep that going as far as their economy and all the workers in Louisiana. So that judge, the Louisiana said, sorry, Biden, oh, you can't do this, but it's not just judges who are standing up.

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Let's take a look at how Rand Paul is demanding the exclusion of the Wu Han lab funders from investigations appearing on Fox news. Senator Paul said, here's the problem. The world health organization investigated this the first time we suggested three people to send to China. They rejected all three and they accepted a guy named Peter does Zack, who was the one that funded the lab. The Senator continued. So you can't can't have the people like Anthony Fowchee or Peter does Zack, who are part of the funding mechanism to these funds to Wu Han lab. You can't have them investigating themselves. They have a definite conflict of interest because if this pandemic started in a lab that the us was funding, the people advocating for the funding obviously will have culpability at least moral culpability.

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And you know, that's the very least, and he says that the least moral culpability let's talk about it at the most, at the most it's criminal, it's legal culpability. And so that's going to be interesting. You can't have the people who funded that lab who are guilty of crimes against humanity. You can't have them investigating the origin of the leak. You have to, you have to have some kind of, you know, objective third party. And so ran Paul standing up putting his name on a letter to demand more transparency, more emails from Fowchee and all the foul cheese underlings so that the GOP is on the offensive.

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They're starting to finally fight back against these bureaucrats and you know, we're going to get to the bottom of this and it's not going to be pretty actually, but it's going to happen. The GOP is also standing up against how the indoctrination of our children let's take a look at the next article about how GOP lawmakers are unveiling a bill to defund the 1619 project, which is an offshoot of the Marxist teaching model, critical race theory. And it's been criticized for attempting to rewrite American history as fundamentally racist and disregarding the merits of the nation's founding documents. The controversial project has been panned by historians as having false information.

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So finally, the GOP is saying, no, you can't indoctrinated or indoctrinate our kids to hate America and hate ourselves and to be racist. So this is a step in the right direction. The final headline I want to take a look at is how you know this Mo Brooks who's the GOP guy. He has an arrest warrant out for Swalwell, Eric Swalwell who's, you know, in Congress he's a Democrat. He slept with the Chinese spy. And so Swalwell was saying that Mo Brooks and president Trump, they incited a riot at January 6th and he hired a private investigator and he wanted to serve him with legal papers.

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So instead of just delivering the papers to his home or his office, he sent a private investigator who just walked into his home. His wife was home alone and she was scared to death by this guy and chased him out of the house. So now that guy who trespassed on representative Mo Brooks house is now he's has an arrest warrant out. So that's just an example how the GOP is no longer just sitting back and allowing the Democrats to run all over them, but they're actually standing up to them and their, on the offensive now. So this is a beautiful thing to see. So that concludes my monologue for today.

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It's interesting to see the military escalation. It's great to see the GOP on the offense and we're going to get into an awesome interview next after sovereign advisers break. This, this guy, Jay Dyer is an author. He's a host of Hollywood decoded. This guy knows everything about The Great Reset and Klaus Schwab. And we're going to get into the esoteric Hollywood books that he wrote. It's going to be a really interesting interview. So just hold on, listen to this, a word from our sponsor and we'll be right back with our guests. Golden it's near all time highs. Has it reached this peak? Did you miss the boat?

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1 (28m 26s):
His graduate work focused on psychological warfare and film, and he is the author of two books, esoteric Hollywood one and two, and the co-creator and co-host of the television show Hollywood decoded. He has been featured on numerous popular shows, podcasts and debates with some of the world's top debaters. Let's welcome Jay Dyer to our show.

6 (28m 46s):
Thank you glad to be here. It's an honor.

1 (28m 50s):
Thank you, Jay. We really want to get to the bottom of this great reset and this character Klaus Schwab and their, their agenda world economic forum. It all seems to be coming out of Switzerland and you study these calls and a lot of them seem to have that connection to Switzerland. Can we start there? Tell me a little bit about cloud Schwab,

6 (29m 11s):
Kind of a figure who, who is a front man? I don't know that he necessarily controls it all, but a lot of times they'll pick people who maybe have interesting backgrounds or prominent families to be the front face of some kind of big agenda. And so they're, you know, there's, there's the accounts or allegations at least that his family did have connections to a, the SS for this kind of stuff. I don't know if that's true, but what is verifiable is that the worldview he's presenting, what he's trying to push is a long-term strategy to create basically a technocratic global government. A and it's the one that includes a lot of previous revolutionary philosophies that ultimately relate to post humanism getting rid of humanity, merging humanity with machines.

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This is all in his recent fourth industrial revolution book. And the last third of the book, basically, it's all devoted to this and really just replacing humanity as a whole. And so it's a very revolutionary philosophy, but it's not revolutionary in the sense that maybe we typically think of it. It's several centuries of revolution geared towards technocracy that

1 (30m 22s):
Really brings to mind other billionaire oligarchs like bill gates and the Elon Musk. Can you tell me how you think they fit into this whole thing? Well,

6 (30m 33s):
Essentially they all have roughly the same worldview. They have the same idea about how to fix they're sort of a more evolved cast of people that feel that it's incumbent upon them to become what the 1994 calls the priest of power, right? The way the O'Brian character feels that it's his duty to essentially control the minds of men. And I just reviewed and re did 1984. I'd read it, you know, for many years ago. And I was just kind of shocked at how oppression that was on so many levels. I mean, everybody knows. Yeah, 1984 predicts, you know, surveillance data predicts a kind of a technocratic world order, blah, blah, blah. So what, no, it's actually very, very nuanced.

6 (31m 13s):
And you know, when you look at characters like O'Brien, which are kind of, you know, archetypical villains, probably the worst villain's in all of my fiction, he's probably one of the worst easily, you know, you see the exact same pattern of a Fowchee of, of a cloth, Schwab of a bill gates of an Elon Musk in these kinds of characters who literally in the case of Ilan comes from a family who's, you know, his predecessors were part of the technocratic origin. I mean that the idea of technocracy that in the early 20th century, the 1920s and thirties, I mean, his family was involved in that movement. So these are people who really believe that you can replace all Western values, et cetera, with this sort of Darwinian thesis.

6 (31m 58s):
That is not just the idea of evolution with the idea of evolving into becoming, as I said, post-human so this is the idea that humanity itself is the problem. You can go to the documents like the club of Rome back in the, the, the first global revolution, when they put, put out that document that dealt with how humanity is the problem. If we could just destroy most of humanity through excuses like pollution and the environment, the climate, et cetera, then we can have a great reset. We could go back to the year zero, right? If you're familiar with, as I said, revolutionary philosophy back to say out in my shop for people like this, that on the enlightenment, the idea of the Jacob Ivins in the French revolution was to get back two years to start over everything erased all the and culture.

6 (32m 40s):
Prior to that, I have a fresh start, right? The same idea comes up in Mao's cultural revolution, just wipe out everything, have a fresh start. And that's really literally where Klaus and his billionaire oligarch cronies are drawing from the previous revolutions. But this is the final revolution. The one that I'll just actually said would be to bring in that brave new world scenario. Yeah.

1 (33m 4s):
And the LDS Huxley really touched upon the medical tyranny aspect of it and the geo, you know, the genetic engineering as well. So it's crazy how these books are 50 plus years old are like super accurate with our reality now. So can you tell us the, you know, you study, you study Colts and a lot of them do have that connection in Switzerland as well. And I was wondering, you know, they want to play God. They want to like, you know, in the same way that from the biblical story, you know, God started with a genetic creation from, from scratch. And then with the, the flood of Noah did the same thing.

1 (33m 45s):
Again, it seems like they want to play God and they want to do that for themselves, from their own philosophy. What is, is it just a technocratic philosophy or is there some kind of esoteric spiritual kind of religion to it

6 (34m 1s):
Both. And I mean, you have some members of the elite that I'm sure don't actually believe in anything supernatural. They just see it as the natural process itself, right. Or some determined chemical process that produces higher and higher beings or something like this. And so that, but that's just as amenable to this Darwinian, the scent model as is any Luciferian or esoteric type position. So they all meld very well together in the fact that they're basically seeking to become gods as mentioned and you know, the fall and Genesis through other means, right through technocratic means in this case, we learned the secrets of nature. Then we can, you know, become post-human. We can fix the problems in the world.

6 (34m 43s):
So if I was to liken it to kind of a hermetic dictum or a secret society, the top addictive right. Work of alchemy, which was the idea that man through his technology and learning the secrets of nature can fix what's broken in nature. So we see death, we see decay, we see corruption, these kinds of things. And the Christian paradigm, the idea is, well, that's the work of Christ. That's what the gospel is the reparation of what Adam lost and so forth. Well in the Gnostic, Luciferian, esoteric, you know, transhumanist paradigm, that's all transferred, not from Jesus, but not through Christ, but into technology and into chemistry and the sorts of disciplines by which man himself will be his own savior.

6 (35m 28s):
So absolutely it is a total tower of Babel. It, all the things that we see in Genesis ironically, are like repeated, which could suggest perhaps the Genesis is actually who I know that's like the craziest thing for anybody to say nowadays, that Genesis is actually accurate, but it does seem to have so many of these messages and warnings about the tower of Babel and so forth by which man tries to erect his own salvation through political means. Technocratic means social means socialism, all of these different isms that attempt to, to create this, you know, new world, this new AI. And that's something that the, the, the cult is talk about, whether it's Croley or whether it's any of these other figures, they believed in the instantiation of a new, eschaton a new, Ayaan a new era that would be characterized by man as God.

1 (36m 23s):
So why did they tell us about their plans to eradicate us? You know, like the GA guidance, Stone's the United nations agenda, 20, 30, the club of Rome. Is there something to that as part of their own philosophy that they believe they need to inform us and get our consent somehow? Or is it just a, you know, what, how do you make sense of that?

6 (36m 48s):
Well, again, I think if, if there are the, if there's members of the elite that do believe in ceremonial magic and esoteric stuff, then yes, they think that it's the kind of a ritual to kind of subdue you and sort of gasoline, right. But from a psychological warfare perspective, if you, if you read 1984, as I was mentioning, you would know that's precisely what O'Brian is doing. The Winston is the, when Winston starts questioning, right. And basically gives him a lot of truth, right? I mean that whole interview, the famous sequence back and fourth, when O'Brien's being tortured in the, for me, it's really just a O'Brien gaslighting Wednesday, the overdose of gaslighting at the same time, telling them the truth. Right. And basically just putting it all out there, and this ultimately leads Winston to where he gives up.

6 (37m 34s):
And so there's, there's different ways that you can, that you can do these strategies to tell something ahead of time has have the effect of conditioning people. It stays in your subconscious right forever. So you're already kind of primed for it in fiction, plays a key role in that, you know, the, the fiction has been used on the part of the, the state for propaganda all the way back to the ancient world. Virgil's India is a state propaganda piece and, and Spencer's fairy queen as I stayed propaganda piece. So this is a thing that has gone off for a long time, but in more recent times, I, I speculate and I put in my books that I think science fiction has a huge role in conditioning and preparing us for the acceptance of things that we might initially be queasy about.

6 (38m 18s):
And a great example of that as the figure of HD Wells himself. And he is really the father of modern propaganda, psychological warfare, because not only did he actually do psychological warfare propaganda, he's the most famous 20th century, you know, science fiction figure. So all of these, the Hollywood movies is all these things and prepared us for aliens in, for genetic engineering, right? Dr. Allen and Dr. Mauro. And we've got world and we've got time machine and all of these things with nuclear bombs, tonic bombs, all that stuff is out of the world of HD. Well, so that's the classic example, preparing us for this stuff. In fact, HG Wells wrote a famous book shape of things to come, which more or less predicts world war II.

6 (38m 58s):
It came out actually years before, and he predicted another great world war, which would involve, you know, a large degree of aerial assaults and so forth. So my very precious, but that's because he was in the circles as the, kind of the outer party member of this Western elite that was behind all of this. And so he knew what the plans were because he worked for them as one of their quote helper's as part of the outdoor party. And that's all detail and many establishment books for them.

1 (39m 28s):
And I'm sure that's what you get into in your two books is how Hollywood is this institution of psychological warfare. And the great documentary out of shadows really brought that to the public consciousness in the past year and how the government and the intelligence agencies or the military, they're all embedded there in Hollywood. And I found it interesting that there were TV shows and books, which in crazy detail foreshadowed the COVID-19 out of Wu Han specifically out of Wu Han China and all the lockdowns and all the different policies.

1 (40m 11s):
And I agree that they are gaslighting us and they're trying to get us into submission. I think that's what the nasal and anal swabs are all about. You know, just penetrating us, getting us to accept that penetration from them. It's like a form of rape and to get us to submit to them. And then the vaccines, even if this vaccine isn't super deadly, it certainly is priming people for the next vaccine that they're going to demand that we get. And once you accept at one time, you're more likely to accept at the next time. What are your thoughts on that?

6 (40m 46s):
Yeah, and I don't mean to offend anyone, but, you know, out of shadows obviously had taken a lot of material from my books and didn't give any credit. So I really wished that they had, you know, cited what they work, where they were getting the information or the book doesn't include any citations, but obviously there was really specific sequences and scenes that were coming from my material and my, my wife's books as well. So, but yeah, I mean the, the, the material was correct. The information is accurate and yeah, the there's a lot of instances of films that were predicting a lot of dystopian films that were kind of preparing us, I think, for these kinds of scenarios that help to cause people to not question again, it's a conditioning mechanism, mainly there's other things that these kinds of actions do, but largely it's conditioning.

6 (41m 32s):
And so I think you were right to point at the notion of violation. And if you, if you've studied Colts and if you've studied trauma, that's really what O'Brien does to Winston again. Right. And he wants to violate Winston to get Winston, to submit and a traumatizes them. And eventually it works. And if you studied MK ultra, if you studied the history of those operations, what they were doing was on and on an individual scale, learning how the mind works and how the traumatized and because the association. So it doesn't have to be some sort of extreme situation where a person has multiple personalities there's and a simpler sense of this, which is to get people to accept contradictory narratives, contradictory claims, and media, and so forth, the fake news, media and whatnot.

6 (42m 20s):
And that's exactly the world that they produced is that kind of a world. And so the, the whole situation that we've seen in the last year with upping the ante through the mask and through the, the, the, these are essentially, I see them like a bondage colds, like if you've studied the way that ritual trauma and abuse can occur with people in sex Colts and things like this, this is very similar to how there are turned into broken people through these, the strategies and techniques. And so that's what they're doing with the mass and what the violating of our bodies themselves are a form of traumatization, which causes people to go into dissociative and catatonic states.

1 (43m 2s):
You know, you're really hitting on something there talking about the bondage sex called aspect of this. I mean, the governor of New York was caught wearing nipple rings during the middle of his, his public, you know, delivery. And it makes you wonder if he was doing that on purpose, showing the world that, or if someone forced him to do it, but it was, it was really in your face. And, and there are other people involved in the steel of the election who Eric Coomer, who, who also, you know, has all these videos and pictures of him with nipple rings as well. So they're, they're showing a hidden side of, of themselves there.

1 (43m 43s):
And there seems to be a sort of a low grade trauma-based and sex-based mind control through Hollywood and through the news going on to all of us at all times. But then there are the examples of, like you said, where it's really, really specific to serial killers, for example, perhaps certain celebrities where there's disassociation multiple personalities, and you go into the serial killers a lot in your work. Can you tell us a little bit about the connections between serial killers and mind control and the, the deep state?

6 (44m 21s):
Yeah, exactly. I think the one thing that a lot of people probably aren't aware of is how many serial killers actually are into really, really extreme deviant sexual stuff. I mean, everybody thinks, oh yeah. So Dahmer, you know, he killed gay people and, you know, John Wayne Gacy was into bondage. Well, this is the recurring theme. It's not just the recurring theme about that. It's a recurring theme that involves a different profile from what most people think is a serial killer. In fact, really in most of these cases, what's turning up over time. And in the last couple of years, actually a huge amount of evidence is turned up in many of these cases to prove that they had accomplices. I'm speaking of the, the famous, the serial killers here, the last and the most, probably the most famous site twenty-four twenty-five in the us.

6 (45m 8s):
And many of them, if not, all of them have direct connection to cults or say tenant Colts or Colt philosophy, most of the cases involve the, the, the, the practice of filming it, which could suggest a, you know, snuff films or black market production of these kinds of films. And that often, as I said, includes torture and bondage stuff. For example, you could think of the toy box killer Parker Parker had a literal satanic Cole that he ran for many, many years. It involved filming the torture that the women and the people that he abducted. And he said it was intentionally to create sex slaves, and he had studied how to do this. So that's what I'm getting at here is that many of these people are involved in the, all of that kind of stuff, as well as accomplices.

6 (45m 53s):
He was the head of a satanic cult. And the many of these people had themselves have traumatic experiences, molestation the disability disassociative identity disorder, and, or some form of military training in many cases. In fact, we don't really live nowadays in the heyday of serial killers. That was, I guess, in the seventies and eighties and a few in the nineties like BTK, but many of these people, you know, had the Vietnam war type service, or they we're in the military during the time period. And that is relevant because here you have people with, you know, training to be killers. And we do know that there are multiple programs that the army had, the Phoenix program, the CR concocted by the CIA to create in Vietnam.

6 (46m 39s):
That's a known admitted program. And we have a programs like the top of the Thomas narrowed, who was the Navy psychologist who spoke about the Navy's program to recruit psychopaths for unknown and non-specified training programs. So we w those were admitted things, and we have <inaudible> as well. So we know this goes on, but most people don't know that, that this is very prevalent, very prominent in these famous serial killer stories. In fact, not only is all that in the case, they also had many times and many cases connect to high level military and intelligence people, as well as to organized crime figures. So the, the mainstream story that probably everybody to question about somebody like Oswald, right, as this long Patsy, well guess what, and the case of the serial, they're not all just organic, random wackos and killers.

6 (47m 33s):
In the, in many cases, they have very significant backgrounds and connections that are just overlooked or swept under the rug.

1 (47m 42s):
Yeah. You know, what's coming to mind is Kaczynski being a part of psychedelic experiments at Harvard university and how that traumatized him and affected him. And he turned into the Unabomber. So you've done some study into the blackmail system, you know, for example, the Epstein and the snuff films and everything, and how this ties into, you know, also the dark religion. I it's fascinating to me that you're saying that some of these elite, they basically are atheists and they just are on an ego trip and they want to mix technology and be their own gods' and all the stuff.

1 (48m 25s):
But there's another group of them. You mentioned Alistair Crawley. They are very steeped in dark spirituality, like channeling spirits and, you know, believing in, in a Satan or whatever. So can you tell us a little bit about what you've observed about the Epstein island, the temple, and any data points you have regarding any blackmail system from Galane Maxwell's father or from, from herself?

6 (48m 59s):
Right. So her father, Robert Maxwell, who had, you know, the publishing in part during the cold war, I mean, he was doing the same types of operations during the cold war. So he's kind of the predecessor to what Epstein was doing. And in more recent times, and those were not the only operations like that, there've been many, many operations like this, of course, probably the most people have heard of the Franklin coverup, which involved people like Craig Spence, you know, doing similar operations in the U S to entrap people, to blackmail them. We know that in the case of Sabal and the houses of ill repute, that the British intelligence was using to blind male people as well. Those are comparable cases of Penn state.

6 (49m 42s):
There are comparable cases that relate to the CIA using blackmail uncompromise information in regard to the operation midnight climax, when they were doing MKL drug tests on unwitting, Johns, who were visiting mafia, connected whorehouses. So those are all easy off the cuff examples. But again, these, these are these or the things that maybe are just now coming out, but they've actually been written about for many, many years. In fact, multiple DC madams have written books and assuming the DC, Madam, and then here, Henry Vinson has written a book. So there's a lot of this in the literature, but most people just aren't the literature. So they don't know about how a lot of these cases are connected.

6 (50m 24s):
And in fact, you say the same thing in the Roman Catholic world as well, where a lot of these higher high level pre lights for many, many decades have actually been compromised in bribes so that they will go along with a geopolitical or intelligence created narratives. They'll vote in a certain direction. And they'll start with the us. I mean, we're seeing this right now with the patriarch of Constantinople, umm, and what he's decided to do in terms of the us and Ukraine assigning with whatever the state department says. I mean, this is, this is just classic espionage and compromise operations. Again, it's, it's not anything new if you've read history, but I guess, you know, a lot of people just don't, aren't aware of these things.

6 (51m 5s):
So yeah, sometimes it's blackmail, sometimes it's compromised sometimes it's, you know, a way to degrade people and in, and see how far they'll go in order to be part of the system. And so, you know, really to rise up in the ranks requires a high degree of, of moral compromise and that's for a reason.

1 (51m 26s):
And you see the signs of this, like the black eyes, you know, the, it seems like every Hollywood person and high-level politician ends up with some kind of black guy, you know, I'm 36 years old. I've never had a black guy my whole life. And yet these people always turn up with the black guy. It's really weird. And I'm wondering also I've, I've noticed other signs from politicians like Barack Obama, where they have a cut and the finger that seems to indicate something related to spirit cooking as well. So there are some of these signs I even saw on the house floor, Mitch McConnell got freaked out because someone showed a triangle signal to him and he, he like immediately has some type of visceral reaction to it.

1 (52m 15s):
So there's some something going on behind the scenes. You know, an interesting anecdote is that Joe Scarborough, you know, before he got into politics, you'll never guess what he did. He was in charge of kitty pageant shows. That was his career. And, and so it just shows that that's possibly was his inroad to, to prostitute children through those pageants. And, and sure enough, once he got into politics, he was also accused of murder, you know? And, and so this guy, this guy doesn't seem to be very clean. He seems to be deep state. What you seem to be describing with the Catholic church though, is like a deep church that there's the kind of two churches that are concurrently running at the same time.

1 (53m 5s):
Just like we have a kind of a bureaucratic government, what the low level people going along, they don't know anything about the deeper power structure. And then you have this other deep state that we call it the, the has other sets of the, his own culture. Can you speak on that?

6 (53m 25s):
Yeah, I think to a degree, empires have always been run this way with an inner core of secret people. And then the outer facade, the people that take the heat that you know, are sort of the dupes and the puppets. So that's again an old, an old way to run empires. But, and in regard to the present day, I think that when, you know, we saw the creation of the national security state and the, the, the creation of the OSS, the creation of the CIA and all that back in the, in the forties, that was really the, the beginning point of a real change in the country. Because a few decades before that, they had been planning to transition to the country out of a industrial economy, to a service-based economy that was planned a long time ago.

6 (54m 13s):
And so that also then moved us out of a nonintervention status, the, the, the CFR, trilateral commission, all those things were set up to basically the transition, the U S back into this global Imperial player. And that was one, you know, the, the founding fathers wanted to avoid because they knew it wouldn't kind of lead too, the disintegration of the nation state. So here we are, we're in that situation now. And for, you know, the last 70 years you've had the buildup of this super structured deep state that is a government within the government. And you're absolutely right, that they have the amount of power they are they're, they're not synonymous with intelligence agencies, they're above that.

6 (54m 56s):
And so they have, you know, key people in those agencies and it's more of a top-down structure and that is, oh, everybody's. And on some conspiracy, no, it doesn't work like that. It's more so that there are higher level people, steering committees groups that have a say, so that the filters down. And so that's why you'll see a lot of the same people involved in, you know, the fortune 100 and will they go to a Bilderberg and those are the same people that go to the CFR meetings and the other, the same people that go to the trial. I don't know the commission, right. So that's the kind of, the way it works is that, you know, they just have these yearly steering committee meetings and they said the global policy, and they've decided, I guess, to just become more and more public about it.

6 (55m 37s):
So in the last 10, 20 years, if you followed all this material and if you've researched it, and then you've seen just kind of the open, you know, what was even a conspiracy theory two years, the swab just says it openly. He says, yes, we want to put microchips under your skin. Yes. We're going to track and trace everything you do. You're going to eat bugs. You're not going to get meat. You won't own any property, all that is going to be taken away. And you're going to like it. I mean, literally just drawing it right out of 1984, brave new world. So, you know, they've been planning, this is not something that they just came up with, right? I mean, one thing I've done is lectures on these topics lecturing through 50 plus of their books, the elites own writings describing their plans from the last century.

6 (56m 19s):
So when you've read about 50 of those books, you see that it's a coordinated plan. There's no doubts about it. They might have disagreements on the different playbooks, how to get to the end goal. But the overall plan is absolutely the same. And it's the creation of time order that will massively depopulate the earth. It's great. Reset. It's just one of the ways to describe the phases in this process, right? To get us to that end goal of most of the population being, being removed and switching over to a fourth type of civil, the fourth industrial civilization, which is AI and tech,

1 (56m 56s):
It seems like the incrementalism that they were doing for decades was working really well. But now it seems the progress has been, come become so aggressive. It's actually waking people up. One example of this is when Microsoft tried to have the spirit cooking Madam on their commercial and celebrate her as some kind of modern artist. And then, you know, it was on YouTube and there were like hundreds of thousands of angry moms and dads who were like, why, why is the Microsoft promoting Satanism? And so they just pulled the ad immediately. So that didn't work out. And just in general, it seems like there's just been this real acceleration.

1 (57m 37s):
Why do you think there's an acceleration do you think is because they're losing or they're winning?

6 (57m 45s):
I think the acceleration is done because they think that society has been degraded to the S to a certain extent to where they're not worried about it anymore. So, so what are the things that are the psychological warfare techniques of demoralization degradation of the population? One of the things that does is that it makes the population unable to respond or to oppose tyranny precisely because the population has been enslaved to their passions. So this is why the promotion of degeneracy is so important is that it actually, since slaves the population to their own desires, into their own passions, and, and that's an old technique and old strategy, it's ultimately, you know, satanic sure.

6 (58m 30s):
But just from a strategy standpoint and think back to the drug war, right? I mean, people have flooded other countries with drugs. Everybody knows about opium wars, and that was the demoralized in and destroy the population. And so we're seeing that now in our country, right? We we've seen the importation of drugs. We've seen that actually the whole drug war is nothing but a giant psychological warfare operation. And Vietnam played a huge role in that, by the way. And I believe that was all intentional. It was intentional Vietnam ultimately to be an attack on America, believe it or not. So that was the whole war, was the psychological warfare operation to change the mind and patterns of America on American living, changing images of man, which is one of the famous white paper documents, the describes this type of social engineering.

6 (59m 18s):
So ultimately it is to demoralize and atomize the situation, the, the, the public, once you understand what, if you look at this, like a, an attempt to, by a foreign power to bring down the existing structure. And it all makes sense. Oh, okay. Yes. That's why they promote inversion. That's why they promote degradation. That's why they promote atomism alienation and cutting everyone off for, from friends and family and everything starts to make sense. So I think that they kind of put themselves in a position where they believe that the Ali and I'm speaking at the time of across that we're at a stage where it's absolutely necessary to capitalized on what has happened.

6 (59m 59s):
And that's why, you know, Klaus writes books. Like, COVID The Great Reset, talking about how this is the, this is the opportunity that we have been waiting for. You know, they weren't waiting for it. It was actually planned for a long time, right? I mean, these kinds of operations, these big scale operations take years and years and years of planning. And if you've read the white paper documents that we did a whole documentary on Infowars on NESA big interview about the spars document that was just one of many documents, including clay Dax, including Crimson guitar step, as well as the bars and others, the show for years and years and years of war gaming and planning event 2 0 1 and all of those show that this was absolutely planned.

6 (1h 0m 41s):
And, and so, yeah, it makes perfect sense to us when we read books like Clouseau's books that this was planned and, and, and there's, again, there's an intentional desire to throw it in your face and that's why they, they, they put it out there and they know they believe they don't have to hide it anymore. And not only that, they put it in your, in our faces to demoralize us.

1 (1h 1m 5s):
Yeah. It seems like they're trying to initiate us into their own kind of sick perverted, you know, calls. And some examples of that would be like Netflix, putting out that soft pedophilia movie, the cuties, and you mentioned alienating people from their friends and family. I have a two-year-old child and we try to put on some educational cartoons and almost all of them involve a child alone, no parents surrounded by robots. And I just think that's such an artificial reality and they can even have it be educational and have the B nothing in your face about it.

1 (1h 1m 48s):
That's a negative or, or, you know, weird, except for what I just mentioned, the isolation, making a child feel like it's a normal reality to only be surrounded by machines. And that the biggest reset things that I noticed during COVID-19 was the fact that everybody wants to remote working. Like our entire economy shifted to zoom communication immediately. Like, and we were like all primed for it and ready for it. We had the equipment and everything. We had the software, and it's just like an amazing, that occurred so fast. And, and now we're living in a completely different reality. Just a couple of months later, I want to ask you about the power structure of what you're talking about, because you mentioned a lot of the deep state and The Deep church and calls and a lot of different things, but what's at the very top of the pyramid, you know, I'm, I'm familiar with the Q Intel drops.

1 (1h 2m 46s):
They talked about the house, the Ross child being significant, you know, are their ancient families involved, like tell us about the power structure.

6 (1h 2m 56s):
Well, I mean, I don't have any, I've never promoted que and I don't have any connection to that. So I don't know about that, but just from their own writings and from their own books and from history. Yeah. There are, there are powerful banking families out of Europe. There are black nobility families that have been around for a long time that have had a lot of influence in entities. Like the Vatican, there are, you know, really powerful nowadays technocrats. So there's the confluence of interests. Roth. Scott wrote a book about the managerial class, about the 6,000 manager, people who run the, the, the world order and then above them sits kind of these higher level families and elites.

6 (1h 3m 36s):
So yeah, it's absolutely, it's not a conspiracy theory. It's just, it's just basic history. And so, yeah, looking at the, the Rockefellers, the raw selves, the JP Morgans, or those are the big families that have, that have run the world for so long. I mean, even Carol quickly wrote that in the 20th century is the world wars were essentially planned buy the banking elite. And so the that's not separate or other than the technocratic. Technically those, those groups have the same. They all have the same goals and plans. And so when you have centuries of fractional reserve banking, centuries of putting nations into debt, you can, you know, gain control the world.

6 (1h 4m 18s):
So it really is kind of that simple in one way that they just gained control the world through controlling the power of money printing and then via that. And which is all admitted by the way, it quickly my book and the first few chapters, then they were able to structure the world. Wars are such that it would exhaust and basically destroy any of the potential. For example, was its world wars in cold war was the, the way to deplete in destroy a, the holy Roman empire and Russia, the only two potential opposition to the Western power structure through those wars. That was the whole purpose of the, of the two world wars and the cold war or the third world war.

6 (1h 5m 2s):
And by doing so this left only the so-called democratic Western elites in charge. Ah, that's what the real tragedy and hope was about. The tragedy is the tea is the world wars in and the hope is Western democratic cat. Well, we don't live in Western democratic capitalism. That's just part of the propaganda, right? That's, that's all a bunch of baloney. It's essentially a completely tyrannical pleasure, cronyism based hedonistic yet brave new world, basically. So, so that's what they want. And that's what they, they're absolutely intent on bringing in. And now it's all open and it's all just 100% admitted by these people. And, you know, we've been talking about Davos for a long time and I was making video's on Davos for years and years and years ago.

6 (1h 5m 47s):
And even I'm surprised at how open they are now, but in regard to the children being raised my robots a few years ago, one of the global league books I did a talk on was a shock out the Lees book, brief history. The future is y'all got to Lee is the Kissinger of France, right? So he's no, no small time figure. He's trained. I think the more, you know, he's been on the mentor, basically several the Mitterrand or for small, how long, but multiple French presidents basically. And, you know, Autoliv said a long time ago, a famous, it was going around. And the couple of weeks ago that there would be a big pandemic. He saw, I think he said it, the nineties are the two thousands. There would be a pandemic. There would be mass, you know, for us inoculations, it would all be for the population.

6 (1h 6m 29s):
And some people took issue with that quote as if it was impossible that he could have said that, well, I read his books and, and he says basically the same stuff in his book. So I don't see why it would be all Landis for impossible. And he said that in an interview, because it brief history, the future, he basically says, yeah, you're going to, and a few decades now he wrote that in 2006, he says, in a few decades, robots will raise your children. You won't have anything to do with it. You'll be removed from this process. And they will. That's literally what he says.

1 (1h 6m 60s):
So let's talk about the counter force to this because we know there are more good people than bad in the world. And there are certainly a powerful people. There's a certain billionaire real estate developer from New York. Who's coming to mind. There are certain, you know, powerful families and powerful institutions, perhaps certain militaries, or maybe even some intelligence agencies that are actually counter to this type of deep state type of agenda. So can you tell us about that? The counter power structure?

6 (1h 7m 37s):
Well, I mean, we've had a lot of, you know, hungry or bond. These places mounting some degree of opposition, perhaps you could already even elements in Russia, perhaps. Yes. I think people within the American powers to people are, are starting to realize that this is not going to be good for 99.9, nine, 9% of the population. And as things get worse, more and more people will realize that as well. Right? So the, the, the good part about things getting bad is that more people will realize that, Hey, we're being lied to, this is all a bunch of baloney, and it's not going to be good for most of us, but you know, there's lot of delusions that go along with evil.

6 (1h 8m 18s):
And when you're really convinced and, and hardened in evil, you're completely diluted. So you might be able to get certain things done and have power, but that doesn't mean that the system that you're bringing in or that your worldview is correct, or the it's going to be the one that actually works. In fact, in many cases, we've seen, you know, tyrants, delusional, wicked leaders. They try to force these systems into reality. A great example would be communism, Soviet system, and then it doesn't work and it doesn't work because they're not based in reality. Right? What does w what does O'Brian se the party is the reality? The party is truth. We make truth. Okay. But that doesn't, that that might work in theory, or when you're doing, you know, your, your torture, but when you actually try to implement that in the world, doesn't work.

6 (1h 9m 2s):
And so these things usually fall, and that's why they want to remove human choices from the equation and have it be run by collusion because you can't have a completely robotic system. It doesn't work. And you also, can't perfectly combine humans with robots. It's all just silly. It's all science fiction in the sense of downloading your consciousness to it, to computer or some of this nonsense. So it's all based on a lot of lies and delusion, but it's enough lie and delusion that people actually believe that a lot of the Silicon valley people, for example, you mentioned the secret societies. When they go to burning, man, they will actually participate in the and burning that has its own intercourse, secret society.

6 (1h 9m 43s):
I'm not joking by the way. I didn't even believe this. When I heard it. Elon mosque, right? The, the big social media company, elite, they go and they will, they blow their minds out on DMT acid, all kinds of things. They participate in rituals. They literally believe that they are a Luciferian elite. That's going to transcend humanity and become gods through their tech. That's what they believe. Okay. Let's just because you have computers doesn't mean you're going to be a Terminator doesn't mean that you're going to be able to do this stuff. So, yeah. I mean, it's just, it's just absurd when you actually think about it. A and you, you can't, you can't base a system that's theoretical and force it in the world and expect the world to conform to your system.

1 (1h 10m 31s):
I totally agree with that. You know, I used to work in China and, you know, for the last decade or so, we've been trained to have be fearful of the rise of China. And when I had my boots on the ground there, I was not afraid. You know, I, I saw a society where a lot of the basic, basic things we take for granted, like driving people, there don't even have the sense of autonomy to be able to do that very well. And the, the decision making processing corporate China is so hierarchical that they can't do anything creative. You know, it's basically, they're not real competition to the west is what I'm trying to get at here.

1 (1h 11m 13s):
Just, you said, house, the Soviet system just eventually fell apart and failed because it's too hierarchical. There's too many benefits to the democratic kind of way of doing things. So, yeah, I do, I do see this whole agenda as destined to fail, but I'm hoping that there are some really big institutions that step up, you know, like the U S military or something like that. Are there any specific institutions you want to mention that you would be hopeful that they would kind of counter in a more formal way?

6 (1h 11m 46s):
Well, I I'm an Orthodox Christian, so I don't really put a whole lot of hope and trust in and the government per se, but I do think that Orthodox Christianity has the best potential for being the, the, the main, and really ultimately the only force that can adequately oppose what we're dealing with. Because number one, it's not the Roman Catholic church, so it's decentralized. It can't totally be a corrupted from the top-down and you can have government and intelligence agencies try to corrupt things and thinking about the history, the Orthodox churches, that no matter how many times and governments have tried, the corrupted doesn't work, it doesn't stamp out. So, so that's my hope is ultimately, you know, in, in terms of a, an accurate biblical approach to these problems, as opposed to just political, but I don't think that that excludes people within military or within other important positions from being points of opposition to the system.

6 (1h 12m 48s):
Absolutely. So, in fact, I think that what I think what becomes evident just from my perspective in terms of being a student of philosophy, is that you need more than just news cycles. And I'm not critiquing anybody in particular, but people need an actual worldview from which to approach the world and they need one that's consistent and coherent, logical, meaningful. That gives a meaning to their lives, into the way they live and to, you know, why you have a family, why you do these things. And so it needs to be something powerful, potent historical, and eschaton eschatological and Orthodox Christianity fits that bill much better than Protestantism or Catholicism in my view, that's my take.

6 (1h 13m 33s):
So that's what I would say.

1 (1h 13m 36s):
Well, I appreciate your, your opinion on that. And it really addresses the moral decay, and you can see that communism and fascism, they always try to stamp out that spirituality and we're, we're dealing with a spiritual war here. And so we need to have a spiritual, our spiritual weaponry to, to deal with this. And so I do think there's a spiritual answer. And when we look at how our society is being degraded through the media and the perversion and sexuality and stuff, they're trying to push on us, it's ultimately our moral and our spiritual purity. That's going to be our defense against that. And so, yeah, I, I go ahead.

6 (1h 14m 18s):
Well, there's an amazing section. And I was mentioning Shaka to Lee's book brief into the future. There's actually a section where he's worried, he's scared. He says what we are doing could around the time of 30, 40 cause a massive reaction by which people will adopt traditional biblical views of God and country. So he actually said kidding. He says, he says, our main concern is that we have to be worried about a return to a God in country. And, and he even calls it theocracy. I'm not sure what he means, but he probably just means anything really the, as any kind of, you know, a belief in God, he says, that's our main concern.

6 (1h 14m 59s):
So the way I, this is going to wake a lot of people up and they know a lot of people are going to return to Christianity, returned to the Bible, this kind of stuff. And they're actually worried about that. So that's a good point. That's a good sign that at least, you know, <inaudible> and myths that he and his book.

1 (1h 15m 16s):
Well, thank you so much for your time today, Jay and a, there is cause for hope, you know, we have hope in Christ and I see a revival coming and it's great that you're exposing the devices of, of, of evil and the world. And thank you for your time today, Jay. Absolutely. Thank you. All right, everyone. Thank you so much for that was an amazing interview. We really went on a deep dive there. I appreciate everyone in the audience being willing to go down the rabbit hole with us and explore these topics. So join us Monday through Thursday, 5:30 PM Eastern, and we're going to keep on giving you the breaking news. Go on behind the news, connecting the dots.

1 (1h 15m 58s):
God bless everyone. We'll see you. Next time. Peace send Tilly 7:00 PM. Eastern