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Good to hear though. John's still challenging and, and he'll be back very soon. So let's, let's get to the breaking news. So we have a lot of interesting headlines. Let's take a look at the epoch times piece where they're talking about a 542% increase in convicted sex offenders arrested at the border with Mexico. So when Trump was in office, they had a, you know, measly, double digits, you know, talking around 50 of these offenders who were arrested per year. And then as soon as Biden took office, some kind of invisible policy took place.
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And that resulted in a 542% increase in convicted sex offenders. So those are just some numbers to help paint the picture of how things have changed since Trump left next work, let's take a look at the propaganda coming out of China. They say that the wool hot and lab scientists deserve a Nobel prize price. So talk about deflecting and misdirection. I mean, instead of just admitting, you know, that they made a mistake and that they were experimenting with bio weapons, no, instead they say these scientists are genius. We need to give them the prize. So, you know, a lot of the mainstream media is just really reprinting this stuff, but we had, AmericanMediaPeriscope have been digging on this for a year and we know that no matter how much they try to spin this, the truth is as obvious as the first time Donald Trump said it is that the virus came from China and this is China's fault.
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So we're going to keep on watch this unfold, but you know, we're not going to be distracted. What the Chinese have to say about the next, we're going to take a look at this video behind me, of how in London, over the weekend, there were thousands upon thousands of protestors protesting the tyrannical lockdowns in England. And it just made me think to myself, where was the reaction and the United States, you know, why didn't we have these massive types of protest to the tyranny here. It's good to see that it's happening somewhere. I remember there were protests going on in Hong Kong.
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And then all of a sudden there was a virus and lockdown and that put an end to protesting. They're the same thing with France. There were protests for over a year. And so they don't want us protesting. You know, they want us in our home, social distancing, no hugs, no kissing, no human affection. Whereas the, the mask wear two masks, take the vaccine, take three weeks <inaudible> and it never ends. We have to take back our power and the people in London are standing up, even though there's a media blackout, we're showing you what it looks like on the street. Next, we're going to take a look at a funny headline in the EU. There are leaders literally because hungry is banning homosexual sex ed for children hungry, and it's new law bans the depiction or promotion of homosexuality to those under 18 years of age, in addition to the legislation targeting pedophiles.
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And it was the most wrenching topic at the recent talks for the EU and the prime minister of Hungary, Viktor Orban defended the legislation, which was signed into law. The Wednesday before the summit meeting began as an effort to protect children and argue that it would have no effect on the rights of adults. Well, the EU leaders did not like these rules and they cried, literally cried about it. And they also threatened to kick hungry out of the EU since they don't resonate with the values of the rest of the European union. So it's getting clearer and clearer. You know how the Overton window has been aggressively shifting on us here, you know, just 10 years ago, the idea of including homosexual sex education would be preposterous, but now it's considered preposterous to be against it.
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So, you know, it's just unbelievable. And it's interesting that certain countries in the EU like Hungary and Poland are standing up against the globalists and there's this rift happening. So it's just like in the U S with different states, like Texas, who are standing up against the federal government. Next, we're going to take a look at how the FDA is adding warning about the heart inflammation problems to the COVID-19 MRN, a vaccines. This is coming out of zero hedge. And I guess this has to do with informed consent. You know, they've been just putting out these vaccines. They haven't been informing anyone about any risks.
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And now finally, the FDA saying, wait a minute, you could experience heart inflammation. Well, I wish that my father knew that who has had many heart attacks and he got this MRI and a vaccine before they gave any informed consent that it caused heart inflammation. So, you know, that's a little too little too late for the people who are, have been damaged by this vaccine. Next, they're going to look at the Arizona GOP lawmakers in the legislature. The Senate specifically are stripping the powers from the secretary of state and giving them to the attorney general. Who's a Republican. So that's kind of refreshing to see a state legislature realize, literally realize they're power and use that power.
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And I've seen other state legislatures. They talk a good game. They talk about audits, but they won't do forensic audits. They won't do subpoenas. They won't use the powers that they have. And so it's good to see an Arizona that deep state, swamp rats, Katie Hobbes has been stripped of her ability to get involved in the legislative side or the legal side. And so that's good news. And a similar story Trump's lawyer is claiming that the former president won't be charged in the Manhattan district. Attorney's first indictment. They said, when this indictment comes down, he won't be charged, but he added that the DA's office said his investigation is ongoing.
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Meaning the former president may not be out of hot water just yet. But he said that the Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance Jr indicated that his office will not indict the Trump organization on charges related to the hush money payments, two women. And it won't charge him related to manipulating value of asset to the company, the checklist of different things, the things that they were alleging and the whole stormy Daniels thing with Michael Cohen was one of them. And so they said, there's not to be related to that, which is certainly good news. Maybe they'll catch him or one of his employees on some technicality, but you know, the president experiences a great deal of protection from these sorts of things.
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So I think this is turning into another nothing burger. Well, after this word, from our sponsor, we're going to talk to Dr. Kirk Elliott about all this exciting stuff. That's coming up with basil three, about how this can affect the price of precious metals and how you guys could benefit. So we're going to learn about that right after this message.
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It's so great to have Dr. Kirk Elliott PhD, economist on the show. He always has great insights about what's going on in the economy, where we're going, what it could mean for you. Welcome to the show. Kirk
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Year over year, over year, over year, gold does number two, the stock market as a whole is number. Imagine what's going to happen when they, when they get rid of the, the price and manipulation and suppression and allow it to just go with the market forces when you have low supply and high demand prices always go up. So this simple rule change basically changed everything in the gold market moving forward.
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And they're probably going to be switching from short to long. And that's what I've been noticing in the silver market that even though the supplies are at all time lows, the price is actually has been, you know, steady or going down slightly sometimes. So to me that says, they're dumping, you know, the silver paper, silver on the market, but eventually they'll probably switch, right? They're going to want to go long to benefit from the upswing of this. Yeah,
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Because they have two. And, and so here's where, where I, I think the, the, the European central bank is, is vying for global monetary dominance, you know, even over the fed, you know, and, and a long, long time ago, not, not that long ago, but it seems like a year or so ago is an eternity, right? When, when you had comments like gold was going to end the fed, right. And you're hearing that going around in certain circles this time, it actually could, because the way that the federal reserve prices, their goals is what they paid for it. So they've got 8,300 tons valued at $42 and 22 cents an ounce. When the price of gold goes up, it actually does them no good at all. In fact, it harms them because what the European central bank does is they mark it to the market meaning or whatever.
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The price is $1,880 announced 2000 and announced 2,400 announced, whatever it is, that's what it's valued at. So when they're pushing up their balance sheet assets side, so they can lend out more money, they're going to drive that price up, buy the same token. It hurts the federal reserve because it doesn't matter how high gold goes. They still valued it. $40, $42 and 22 cents and announced, which is silly to me. But what does this mean? It means that, that, and in a competitive world, right, you've got these two big central bank's the ECB in the fed. Well, basically when, when they are going to be able to lend out more money and grow and shore up their economies and help the member nations, they're going to do this with gold for the first time ever.
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They, they need it to go up and it's not like Shaun, that it's your neighbor, you know, Bubba in his garage saying, I like gold. And I want to tell everybody about it, right? And he knows like, Hey people, this is the European central bank, have a feeling they're going to kind of get their way on this one. And it's for all of us that own gold, or are considering owning gold, you know, following the short squeeze and silver that we're seeing, we can move from growth to growth, to growth, and just being the right place. It's the right time. And let these trends work in our favor rather than against us for the first time in a long time.
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Can you explain why it would be beneficial to have physical precious metals instead of the paper versions at this time?
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Sure. Well, you know, I'll use, I'll use the silver for example, because everyone's watching the short squeeze kinda playing itself out while when the banks doubled down on their short positions, what are the doubling down on? They're doubling down on, on that paper, the short contracts, which measured basically, that's a reflection of the spot price. So you're seeing the spot price continually come down. So things like the silver ETF or even a gold ETF, what do they track the track, the spot price, right? So when the banks are increasing their short positions, driving that spot price down, anyone's paper, gold, or paper, silver, like through an ETF, well, they're coming down with it, but in the physical world, there's now been a decoupling really between the physical markets for silver and the paper, because there's very little inventory we've seen over the last month and a half Poland, Mexico, Australia run out of silver.
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And for a couple of weeks, even the U S depository system ran out of one ounce, silver rounds getting some back, but you know what? It's not in massive quantity. None of this is in massive quantity. So when you have short supply, coupled with high demand, the prices are going to go up net. We're talking about the physical world. It's very difficult, Sean, to manipulate the physical world, because it's real, it's easy to manipulate the prices with paper because it's not really, you just issue these contracts and it drives, it drives the price down, but that's not the physical world. And that's why when, when people, you know, I had, I had somebody that saw me on a TV show and I said to invest in silver. And they got mad because they called their Merrill Lynch broker and the Meryl Lynch broker for them and the silver ETF, and that price went down and they said, Kirk, the price and went down, but you haven't invested in the silver.
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You invested in the ETF. Well, well, my broker said that it was the same as it, but it's not physical. It's physical, there's safety that comes with that because there has been a decoupling now in a lot of certain circumstances between the physical market and the paper markets.
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And my understanding is that, I mean, sure, if you try to buy an ounce, the silver in the paper market, it's like $26 an ounce. But if you try to buy it in the physical markets, more like $32 an ounce, so there's that premium, but it could, it could get way worse to the point where, you know, if there's a real, real shortage of physical silver, the, the, these short contracts could be paid out in cash instead of, and physical. And then in that case, whoever has the physical ends up gaining a lot of value and whoever has these paper just gets paid out and cash. And so its it's the more that this market gets a frantic, the more the disparity between physical in the paper can, can be, is that right?
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No,
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That's true. And, and when you're, when you're shorting commodities, you know, and you've got these short sales and contracts out there, the flip side of that contract is almost always settled in cash, right? I mean, let's take an example. Let's say you're, you're shorting pork bellies, right? Well, you're not going to want delivery of a semi-load full of a thousand pigs delivered to your door. Right. And then they always settle in cash. However, in the silver market, when the people at Reddit and wall street bets on whatever, and they're forcing their short squeeze, they're going to say, we want physical delivery of the silver and yeah, that's fine. You can take physical delivery of silver. That's awesome. It's a great investment. It's not like a live animal coming to your door, right.
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So then when there is no supply available in the banks have to cover those short possessions because the other, the flip side of that contract doesn't want, they don't want cash. They don't want to settle on the cash. They want physical delivery. They have to do that. They have to do it. And if there's no supply available, that's when the prices go through the roof rapidly.
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Interesting. Yeah. So this can really change the prices of both silver and gold in the short term with the EU change. And then I know London's a big, you know, financial center of the world and that real change happens a little bit later at the end of the year. So there are two different dates we're looking at here for effecting prices. I think we're
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Going to continue to get these one, two punches and, and at the same time, people are going to be locking in profits and rolling them into the next undervalued asset class. Yeah. I mean, I foresee people locking in their profits in the short squeeze and silver taking those profits, rolling them into gold, but you just compound the number of ounces of gold that you could have purchased from day one because you're using an inflated asset and silver to pay for that gold. So I think as this stuff plays out, you know what you just referenced in London coming after the ECB rule change, you know, with, with Bazell three, we are in for some re growth and certain assets and certain shrinkage in other assets, you know, the, these kind of things.
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When you're talking about hire taxation, changing the interest rate cycle, the stock and bond market are not poised for, for very good returns for quite some time. But these are the same kind of things. It's factors that cause gold and silver to go up. So that's why we can have a smile on our face show and it's like, I don't care. What kind of the, you know, obviously I do care, don't take that the wrong way. I, I want to regain our political freedoms, our religious freedoms, our economic freedoms, our personal freedoms. Right. But when it comes to our finances, when you understand the policies of the world that we're living in the presidential, policy's the legislative actions, they all have consequences. Once you understand what those consequences are, we can be in the right asset category at the right time and take full advantage of it rather than it taking advantage of us.
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That's what we do here is we blend the political with the economic and make sure that, that we are in the right place giving the, the time that we're living in. And right now it's easy, just points the gold and silver hasn't always been the case, right? It wasn't the case a year ago that I was going to silver. It probably isn't going to be the case a year from now. However, for right now to maximize your return, to minimize your risk, it makes all the senses in the world.
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And that's what I like about the low risk profile. A lot of people are looking at cryptocurrencies right now, which is just so much risk. Sure. There's lots of upside as well. But with silver, you've got this really high upside it's it's that's, it's not at its historical high right now. Like, like you have with cryptos, it's that it's, you know, it's got a long way to go to grow and yet it would not be very realistic to say the silver is going to crash when there's a supply shortage. So, you know, any type of downtrend would be temporary. It, in my view, that's the most beautiful asymmetric trade where you can just not have to take a big risk, but you have a really big upside,
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A hundred percent. See we can, you said, you said it really well just now I could maximize your return potentially with cryptos, but it also comes with maximizing risk. I could maybe minimize your risk by just sitting in cash, but it also comes with minimizing your return. I don't recommend anything for anybody unless it's maximizing the return and minimizing your risk at the same point, because that's how you grow your wealth over time. And that's what we've got right now with the golden silver. I firmly believe silver is the safest asset in the world right now. I'm and that's why we're doing such heavy allocations into it.
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Yeah. And it's so cool. The uhm, supply needs, the demand needs. I mean our, our, you know, all of the green tech, you know, you got the solar panels, you need silver, you know, electric vehicles, you need silver. It's just unbelievable electronics, all these things that are just in a long-term growth trend, they need silver and they don't have enough of it. So I think we have a long-term bull trend. So I guess we'll, we'll see how it plays out. If people want to get a free consultation, they know where to go. Sovereign advisors.net. Thanks for joining us today. And we're going to have a great interview with our next guest, Naomi, Dr. Naomi Wolf. Thanks so much. You bet.
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Bye. For now we have the view coming up here, Naomi Wolf, liberal news, believe it or not to have people with that on our program, she was just on Tucker Carlson and she really gave him lots of great information about how Big Tech is becoming tyrannical and is really interesting because she was actually banned from Twitter after that. So she is an author, feminist leader, former democratic adviser. The most recent books include New York times bestsellers at the of America. And give me Liberty. She a former Rhodes scholar. She completed a doctorate in English, language and literature from Oxford and a research fellow at Barnard college and university of Oxford and taught rhetoric at George Washington university and Victorian studies at Stony Brook university.
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She's a lifelong progressive Democrat. And in February, she was on Tucker Carlson talking about the growing to tolerate totalitarian state we are facing. And like I said, she was banned on Twitter right after that. So let's take a quick look at this interview. She did with Tucker real short clip. And then we're gonna interview Naomi about the latest developments regarding her expression online.
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One person who apparently is not afraid to speak up to Naomi Wolf, who was undoubtedly losing friends by appearing on the show tonight. She's the author of the end of America, letter of warning to a young Patriot and the CEO of daily cloud. She joins us. Thank you and me. Well, I appreciate your coming on. I never thought I would be talking to you except in a debate format. I'm sure we disagree on an awful lot, but on this, I was struck by the bravery. It must've taken you to write it. I'm sure you lost friends over it. And for doing this, tell us why you're, you're doing this and why you wrote that.
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Well, it's not just thanks. First of all, thank you, Tucker. I'm really happy to be talking to you. It's not just that one tweet I've been writing pretty much every day for months and months, about what I see as the terrible crisis that we're in, that we have to recognize under the guise of a medic, a real medical pandemic, we're really moving into a COO situation of police state situation. And that's not a partisan thing that, you know, as you say, that transcends everything that you and I might agree or disagree on, and that should bring together left and right to protect our constitution. We're absolutely moving into what I call step 10.
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I wrote a book in which I pointed out. There were 10 steps that would be tyrants, always take when they want to close down a democracy, whether they're on the left or the right, they always do the same 10 things. And now we're at something I never thought I'd see in my lifetime, you described it really, really well. It is stepped 10 and that's the way the suspension have the rule of law. That's when you start to be a police state and we're here, there's no way around it.
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I'm, I'm so embarrassed. And it's just, it's another example. There are a million of them of why partisanship is stupid and it makes you stupid. And I guess I just assumed that we wouldn't agree on stuff. So I didn't read your tweets and I obviously should have been, and I missed a lot in, and so again, it's nice to remember. You should treat people as individuals, rather than the standards for whole political parties. You have been predicting this for a long time. You just said, why don't you think others aren't seeing this?
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Well, unfortunately, a lot of people are seeing it, but we're not unified. And as you pointed out, we're a very divided country for a lot of cynical reasons. I'm in touch with many, from all backgrounds and all walks of life who are horrified. I interviewed for instance, moms for Liberty, a group of conservative moms in Florida who are mobilizing to try to get schools open. And they're so worried about what's happening to their kids. And I talked to the mom, Jen say famous gymnast and activist in San Francisco on the left, who is also a mom who's horrified. I, you know, I've, I've interviewed doctors, I've interviewed, you know, ordinary people, restaurant owners from all walks of life who are absolutely unable to even articulate their fear and horror recognizing that the state has now crushed businesses, kept us from gathering in the assembly to worship.
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As the first amendment provides is invading our bodies. As you mentioned, which is a violation of the fourth amendment is a restricting movement. Finding us here in New York state, I could be fined $15,000 a day. If I gather people, you know, more than 10 or 25 people, depending on where in New York state I live, you know, which is a complete violation of the first amendment. I mean the violations go on and on and on. I've talked to the restaurant owners who are looking at a sector in which tens of thousands of small businesses have been crushed. And why were they crushed? Not because of pandemic force than to there is no real science underlying a lot of these closures.
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It's because autocratic tyrants that the state and now the, the national level are, are creating a kind of merger of corporate power and government power, which has really characteristic battalion fascism in the twenties. And they're, they're using that to engage in kind of emergency orders that, that simply strip us for our rights, rights, to property rights, to assembly, rights, to worship and all of the rights that our constitution guarantees. So people are definitely horrified and noticing. I think people are shocked and, and, and divided as I mentioned before. And the other thing that happened is you said, this has all been very sudden.
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And when you look back, you know, March of 2020, a lot of things started to move that kind of locked into place, a set of policies that are kind of 360 degree full on totalitarian policies. So I think a lot of us are kind of in culture shock, luckily or unluckily, I've been studying closing democracies for 12 years. So I recognized early on, you know, once, once I realized New York state had emergency powers, I know from history that no one gives up emergency powers willingly, they always drag it on and drag it on. And so every month I'm getting in my email and announcement that governor Cuomo is extending emergency measures, extending emergency measures only from studying history.
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Do I know how predictable it is when you start to have elected officials say we are not going to follow the constitution because if there's a pandemic and I just want to say lastly, and then I promise I'll stop nowhere in the constitution. Does it say all this can be suspended? If there's a bad disease, we have lived through type has color, a smallpox, HIV, tuberculosis, polio, the Spanish flu, you know, we've lived through an attack on our soil, never have there been months and months and months of emergency powers when we weren't actually fighting a war. So this is completely unprecedented.
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Lockdowns have never been done before in free societies. And really we're turning into a version of a totalitarian state. So it'd be for everyone's eyes. And I, I really hope, you know, we wake up quickly because history also shows that it's a, a small window in which people can fight back before it's too dangerous to fight back,
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Man, I'm starting to think that we're being divided as the country precisely. So we don't have conversations like this, and I hope you will come back. Naomi Wolf. What a, what a pleasure when an eyeopening pleasure was to talk to you and I thank you.
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So that was interesting thing, you know, I guess you can have some good conversations when you open your mind and realize we have more in common than we think we do, especially when we're all being affected. So we're going to get into some interesting questions for Dr. Naomi Wolf, right after this break, Tammy Wolf. How are you?
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I'm good. I'm really happy to be talking to you. Thank you. How are you?
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Okay, great. I think I can, I can't quite hear you yet. Are we connected now? Ten nine, eight, seven, six. Yeah. And now we can hear you. Well, Dr. Naomi for Twitter and what, what, what did they hone in on? What, what kind of topics are they trying to the sensor you on?
5 (28m 32s):
Yeah. Thank you for asking a lot of news outlets, including very respected ones like Yahoo news and the guardian and the BBC did not call me for comment before they took Twitter's misstatement that I was kicked off of Twitter for vaccine misinformation, quote unquote, that's not why I was suspended from my experience. I was suspended in the act of uploading a video from the duly elected United States state, Senator, Senator que and saturate Oregon 'em. And I was reading her press release about her bill SB 8 72 to ban vaccine passports and mask mandates in the state of Oregon.
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And I think it's really notable, especially with the huge bombshell in the news today reported by the national because they think it's really notable that I was suspended from Twitter 24 hours after I had posted a video of my husband, who is a private investigator, Brian O'Shea reading Dr. Ralph Barrack's CV. It's a publicly available CV. If she's at the university of North Carolina and his CV clearly shows millions of dollars from the NIH, including for gain of function research. And it clearly shows that Dr. Fowchee had lied to Congress when he told Senator Paul that he had not funded gain of function research.
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So that video got 74,000 views in 24 hours. And it was at that point that I was suspended and the suspense notice is right on that video. So I think that's why I was suspended from Twitter. It turns out that the news today confirms there's the book called a nightmare scenario that confirms that Dr. Fowchee lied to Congress a year ago in June, 2020, and also the national pulse reported other, you know, shocking connections of colleagues of Dr. Fowchee showing investment and gain of function research, and both at the Wilson lab and elsewhere and the United States.
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So do you think it was an algorithm, do you think there was a human that, that was involved here with making a decision? Or do you think you were targeted and surveilled bef before this happened? Because I saw on Facebook, some people were posting the world health organization, not recommending vaccines for kids. That's usually the standard base for the DBAs censorship on his, the world health organization. Now, if you post something from the world health organization, you can get censored. So it makes me wonder, is this all artificial intelligence that's doing the censoring automatically?
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Yeah, that's a great question. And I'm CEO of a small tech company called daily cloud. And those are it's because I understand how easily the data around this pandemic have been manipulated by things like digital dashboards that I think I'm particularly annoying to this unholy Alliance of big tech and the Chinese communist party and other bad actors who are trying to exploit this pandemic and, and weak in the United States. That may be a different conversation. But to answer your question, I don't have any knowledge of having been surveilled.
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I do know that I'd been suspended a couple of times before briefly given warnings. I was, you know, my, my, my YouTube account has been frozen. So I knew that my very solid public interest reporting on things like harms from the vaccines. And I'm not, anti-vaccine never cared about vaccines before now, but I care about I'm the fourth amendment, right? To privacy. I care about HIPAA. I care about how illegal medical coercion is clearly. I'd been kind of flagged and that can be done through an algorithm. I, I did happen to meet a former employee of Twitter. I'm not going to name him at an event. I was out over the weekend and he kind of described a very clear kind of chain of command for deplatformings people, where it starts with an electronic signal, but then there's a human committee and what's really very kind of Kafka <inaudible> and Stalinist about this experience is I have no recourse.
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You know, I appealed to Twitter, Twitter. Hasn't told me why I've been deplatformed there's no, and I can talk to, but in the meantime, very scary for any citizen, not just me, the Twitter spokesperson apparently was talking to all these major news outlets, lifting out of context, tweets of mine in the past mis-characterizing them and smearing me. And I had no way to challenge this or to ask, you know, what about this very newsworthy, bombshell of a video that was so viral that, you know, Kim right before my suspension. Mmm. And so it's this very kind of CCP style erase your from history. I mean, my husband just posted a tweet from the ship news about me having been sensored from Twitter and Twitter sensored hit.
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And there's, it's a, it's the kind of a bizarre kind of persecution digitally for what turned out to be incredibly newsworthy, confirmed public interest stories that I had the misfortune of being slightly ahead of the curve on,
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Yeah, we are in the online world, we call it, you were a memory hold, you know, they just tossed that incident into the memory hole in buses. They control the data on the internet with their own monopolies. They're able to change the digital reality. And they've conditioned us to accept that there's no customer service and the interaction with these megalithic companies so that we don't feel that we have recourse, but there are people who think that they should take legal action against these big tech companies. And luckily governor DeSantis just, you know, open that up for Florida citizens. Is that something you're looking into?
5 (34m 40s):
I mean, I think it would be premature for me to answer that question right now, but I definitely think as someone who has, and thank you for sharing that clip from a million years ago, which shows that I've been absolutely consistent administration after administration in calling out violations of our constitution, you know, I'm being mis-characterized right now as having switched parties. It's not true. My, my allegiance is that the constitution in the United States through every administration to either party. So thank you for, for, for showing that it's it's premature, but this issue does really raise huge legal questions. Really the equivalent of you're talking to, you know, you're talking on the phone and the phone company, doesn't just disconnect to you and switch off your phone access, but goes around to your employer's because I right for these publications and says, oh, we just connected John Smith's phone because he was spreading information on his phone conversation.
5 (35m 40s):
And John Smith has no way to talk to his employers about whether that's true or not. You're absolutely right. People can't look at my tweets. I can look at them, but no one else can, which is surreal to see whether I was spreading misinformation or whether in fact, I was prescient with a couple of major stories. Like I was the first to report on dysregulation of women's menstrual cycles, post vaccination. At first, I was called bonkers by Matt Goetz of CNN and media matters for doing this. Of course later, the guardian and I believe CBS and other news outlets also reported on that important story. I was about two months early warning people about myocarditis in young men based on a letter from 20 doctors and peer reviewed articles.
5 (36m 27s):
And I mean, to the point where my loved ones were saying, don't tell us about myocarditis and young men stopped telling us about this and sure enough, you know, I was unfortunately too early because now all of the news is confirming that there's mild carditis and young men last week. You know, I'm deplatformed now I'm on, on telegram. I warned that the CDCs assessment that there were 226 pieces was not correct. It was too low. And now this week they're confirming that there are at least 1200 cases. So, you know, I am guilty of being, you know, an independent journalist who gets the story ahead of a bunch of news outlets who are funded by bill gates, to some extent.
5 (37m 8s):
I mean, we can talk about that if you like the Columbia journalism review reported, and it's true that millions of dollars, aren't going to publications like the guardian NPR and so on BBC for coronavirus research, this makes a big difference to a news outlet. They they're, they were barely hanging on before this kind of funding. So of course they'd want to silence me. Of course they'd want to undermine me because the challenges that I'm issuing are to a narrative that he is directly invested in. And by the way, Microsoft makes the vaccine passport, which have also been very critical of. So I do as an independent journalist pose, a threat to some vested interests that are helping to fund mainstream news outlets.
5 (37m 51s):
And that's very dangerous for democracy.
0 (37m 55s):
Yeah. The thing that kind of kept our society healthy in the past was the fact that the institutions were fairly independent from one another. I mean, sure. There was some stuff going on in the background with some infiltration, but you didn't have this type of coordination between government and big tech and so forth. And you mentioned that was kind of like the Italian fascism in the twenties. Do you want to explain that?
5 (38m 19s):
Sure. Well, I think it's really important that you bring that up. And that was the point I made that we had to worry about it in my book, the end of America, in terms of in 2008, right now we have a situation and, you know, it's ironic cause I'm a lifelong Democrat, but you know, Breitbart doing good reporting on this. And you know, Steve Bannon is doing good reporting on this. We have a situation in which there's the kind of unholy marriage as I put it in those publications between the Big Tech of the DNC and probably Chinese interests. And what this does is it creates a kind of Metta national conglomeration of a ministry of truth that doesn't have Americans interests at heart and doesn't care about the first amendment.
5 (39m 7s):
So what that allows is what you're seeing now. It's not just me. President Trump has been deplatformed, Dr. McCullough, who also warned about side effects with vaccines has been deplatformed with 17,000 followers. You know, so many reputable, the people, you know, elected officials have been deplatformed. So what you're seeing is not, is not a national level of censorship, but a kind of merger. And that's what fascism is of corporations and government. And what you've got really in this case is corporations are doing the dirty work that our constitution forbids governments to do the government isn't supposed to be in the business of censoring citizens, speech, write the first amendment protects us from that.
5 (39m 52s):
But clearly, I mean, that's why I think it's so important to have discovery and to have investigations of what did Zuckerberg state and Fowchee, you know, and really if there's ever an investigation of what happened to me, was there any communication between any government officials and you know, or for the NIH and anyone at Twitter? You know, if the, if there are any communications between government officials or their allies, cause that's usually how it's done. I speak as a former political consultant and the social media giants to deep platform, people, masses of conservatives are being deplatformed right then that is it's legal, but it's a very, very serious issue because it means that the government is enlisting the private sector to do things for the government that are illegal to do for the government.
0 (40m 41s):
So what is the solution if the swamp is so deep that they're not self-regulating, you know, which institution do you think has the most possibility to inject some reform into this?
5 (40m 56s):
Yeah, it's pretty serious. Well, that's a great question. I mean, there is an important, there's some bills that have been put forward. I do think investigations are very important. We have to know who, who was interested in covering up what they were doing and who had a vested interest. I mean, I just noticed today and rereading Dr. Ralph Barrick, CV, that he has two patents on that main Corona viruses. You know, I'm not kidding, you know, that is newsworthy. People should be looking into that. What happened to that? You know, was there any engagement with that? Does he, what's the role of that?
5 (41m 38s):
I mean, these are so important, but in terms of reform, I do think the bill I'm a Democrat, I'm a progressive liberal, but the bill that some Republicans have introduced to firefight sheet is I think very important because I believe that there's some disclosure and investigations and testimony that can come if that's successful. And I, I think that for the sake of the country, Democrats should cross the aisle and support that. I think that leaving that aside a really important bill to turn social media companies into utilities rather than publishers is going to be very, very valuable because we, we do use them as utilities.
5 (42m 20s):
We want to use them as utilities. They're not accountable as publishers, right? I mean, publishers, there's an ombudsman, there's a corrections department. There's someone you, their editors, you can phone. These people are acting as unrestricted sensors of our civic life. And now our medical life, which is terrifying. I mean, they turned out to be wrong. Facebook was wrong for 10 months in censoring, any discussion of possible gain of function research or, or leaks from the wool Han Institute of virology that was wrong. And our country cannot survive. If these people hide under their designation as publishers and use it to S you know, censor and the platform, their buddies innovate he's right there, there, it's clearly partisan at this point.
5 (43m 12s):
And I see this as a Democrat with great pain. So I do think that bill to turn them into utilities will be salutary, but I first there have to be investigations. You know, how many people has this happened to you? How does it happen as you asked? Is it just an algorithm? Is it an algorithm? And then as I was given to understand by this person, I spoke with a committee, you know, which then says, yeah, let's let's, and then, you know, let's take out this citizen and then how legal is it to not just remove a citizen from a platform, but then go around to, you know, major national and global news outlets to smear that citizen. I mean, those are important legal issues and the relationships in any conflicts have to be disclosed, and we do need to legislate to reform this situation.
5 (44m 1s):
It's catastrophic. I mean, right now it happens to be the Democrats aligning with the Big Tech to extend lockdowns forever, which by the way, leads to double digit billion increases in revenue for the CEOs of Big Tech, right? That's such a conflict of interest, but whatever party, you know, is empowered, that that decides to be best buddies with Big Tech and censor and the platform and smear their enemies, you know, that becomes a one party state. And that becomes, you know, living we're basically living in China no matter where we live in the United States.
0 (44m 38s):
Well, it can get confusing to someone who's watching this unfold because you have these Republicans for the past, for years who have been grilling these tech CEOs in front of Congress, but then never actually doing anything substantial to stop them or to propose anything policy-wise to change their behaviors. So it almost smells like controlled opposition where they're just doing a song and dance, make their constituents think that they are going to do something to help, but then they end up doing nothing. And so it just, you just feel like you're being manipulated as a constituent, even though the politicians saying the right things.
0 (45m 19s):
So I think a lot of us are getting tired of waiting around for them to do something. And, and so there needs to be some kind of grassroots effort as well. What are your thoughts?
5 (45m 29s):
I mean, I respectfully, I don't quite agree with you. I do think we have to do something on a grassroots level in, and you know, one of the reasons I may have been in the crosshairs too, was the success of a campaign on my site, daily cloud.io, right there, which is called the five freedoms campaign. And, you know, state by state, we were going through and passing legislation are supporting the passing of legislation two and mass mandates and Vaccine passwords. So lucrative for big tech, right open schools. And now also the lucrative for Big Tech because of distance learning, that's their contract, you know, freedom of assembly and the end of emergency loss.
5 (46m 9s):
So, you know, we were very successful and, you know, when people want to change the laws, I really recommend, you know, coming to daily cloud.io, we've got draft bills, proposed draft bills, and then take those draft bills and lobby to change the law's because there is activity there, success you can have with the state level that you can't have easily at the congressional level. I don't going back to what you said a moment ago. Don't necessarily agree with you that the song and dance you often see in which Congress grills, you know, CEOs of big tech companies is controlled opposition. I mean, I don't, I don't think that that is a thing, but that is also a separate conversation.
5 (46m 52s):
I think that unfortunately, a lot of members of Congress don't really understand digital technology. For instance, someone explained to members of Congress that certain user interfaces are designed to be addictive. Well, every developer knows that you are trying to create a user interface that people don't want to leave that engages them kind of compulsively, like that's our job. You know, even if it seems kind of dark. So they, they got fixated on that and they tried to draft a bill saying don't make it addictive. And I think that was kind of going down a rabbit hole of not understanding technology.
5 (47m 35s):
I think they need people in Congress. And right now it's not going to come from my side. Unfortunate. It's going to come from Republicans who can speak both languages and who can explain really important things. Like the fact that, you know, algorithms do amplify divisions between people, you know, horribly, and that's so bad for America, they need to explain that algorithms are created by people. You know, that people tend, who are not techies, tend to think algorithms are kind of completely objective and, you know, transparent will algorithms are designed by developers and tweaked by developers. And so people have to really understand that that there's accountability in how algorithms are created.
5 (48m 19s):
So maybe, you know, stop creating algorithms that show every liberal, you know, a picture of conservatives that is monstrous and vice versa, right. That only serves to benefit our enemies, that kind of division. But I think really fundamental questions around the pandemic are also incredibly important to explain to members of Congress like, you know, Johns Hopkins, USA facts, the COVID-19 tracking project, they all launched these digital dashboards. And our children were sent home from school. Businesses were closed forever. 40% of them businesses, black owned businesses, businesses owned by people of color.
5 (49m 3s):
You know what the small landlords had to sell assets and fire sales, catastrophic outcomes, mental health crises among our young people based on these dashboards that the New York times would link to every day show and oh, a spike in COVID cases. Right. But no one ever got to see the raw data sets. And no one explained to users of media that if you can set an algorithm in five minutes, right. To not count over Christmas over Thanksgiving, and then start counting again, and you're going to get a spike. And there were so many examples of manipulating the data on digital dashboards that were so, so easy.
5 (49m 51s):
If you build digital dashboards, as we do in my company to see how cynical this was and how, you know, or they'd say, cases are up 20% in Oregon and you drill down into the data and find out that that meant it went from, you know, eight cases to 10 cases, but no one ever explained that. Right? And so I think that some basic digital literacy or a person who's there in Congress at the state house level to kind of translate digital literacy back and forth to our lawmakers would be very, very important. But you know what? You don't have to do that too. Call for the investigation of ill elicit, if not illegal coordination between our elected officials and Big Tech to silence people.
5 (50m 35s):
And if that isn't illegal, it should be. And by the way, we need to move quickly because Barack president Obama, former president Obama and others, other stars on the democratic side are calling for new algorithms that will bump more people off who are critical of Democrats under the guise of leading out hate speech. And that is super scary. So basically you're going to have, you know, this narrow range of discourse that you can only have if it's like, you know, thank you president Biden and president Obama for, you know, and thank you, Big Tech and thank you, big pharma, you know, for everything that you've bestowed on me.
5 (51m 16s):
And I'm not allowed to ask questions for all become a non-person
0 (51m 20s):
And they use it with this nebulous term hate speech. That's never really defined. Two is always defined the way that they want to use the sensor others, but not taking into account the constitution and our rights there. So it's scary because president Trump just announced he's going on rumble, which is a Canadian company. They don't guarantee American constitutional rights and they just inserted a new anti hate speech policy. So, you know, it's so nebulous, they can define it any way they want anything they say is, Hey, not here we go again. President Trump and his followers are able to be legally censored in Canada and it affects everyone around the world.
0 (52m 4s):
And so we need, you know, free speech rights on social media for Americans. It needs to be legislated. And there's just so few companies that allow it, I guess you're on telegram. Any other companies that you're using to, to stay censorship free.
5 (52m 21s):
Thank you. Well, this stuff goes really deep. I mean, Ben Shapiro, I believe, had to face his servers. Deplatformings him like Amazon can pull the plug and other people in the health freedom community have said that MailChimp, you know, their email lists have, have booted them Stripe and square have a deep platform to people. And I'm not talking about Al Qaeda, you know, but like people, you know, trying to make sure that parents get to decide whether their kids are vaccinated with experimental, you know, treatments. I mean, it's, it's really scary.
5 (53m 2s):
So I am on telegram. I am on gab, but more importantly, I think I have my own publication daily cloud.io and Dr. Naomi wolf.com, but I don't want to downplay. And we do need to create a kind of alternative digital universe that is censorship free as quickly as possible. I'm really proud that one of our advertisers sales nexus, which is a competitor to Salesforce, Salesforce is building vaccine passports with Microsoft and Oracle, but sales nexus is committed to being Vaccine passport for free. And also the CEO of that has created a kind of set of suggestions of an alternative universe of digital products where you're not dependent on Google, which by the way, find it gain a function research as it turns out the national polls reported on that as well.
5 (53m 55s):
You're not dependent on Microsoft, which is building vaccine passports. And I really think that the market has to, we have to support the market in creating kind of censorship free and tyranny free products, especially in the digital space. And we have to do it quickly because they could pull the plug on all of us before there was a robust set of platforms to, to move to for all these functionalities.
0 (54m 21s):
Yeah, good point. It's not just social media. I mean our ability to send mail to each other and it used to be, we did it through, you know, the us postal service and FedEx and ups. Now, the way we communicate is by email and is controlled exclusively by the monopolies and they can sensor things, shadow sensors, send things to the spam box that they don't want you to read. And so, yeah, we have to get savvy, you know, start looking at privacy oriented alternatives as soon as possible. Oh, this, this is the subject to the people here. I mean, the founder of AmericanMediaPeriscope was D D banked by PayPal. I lost my Patrion, all of my social media.
0 (55m 2s):
A lot of the things that you mentioned can happen to someone, it happened to me. So I know what it's like. And so I frantically started figuring out alternatives so that I could stay connected with my audience.
5 (55m 14s):
That's shocking. I'm really sorry to hear that that shouldn't happen in the United States. And that is something that can be addressed legislatively. I mean, just like we have laws that say you can't, you know, discriminate for certain things when you're hiring or promoting people. I think we need laws that say you can't, you know, kick customers off of platform for their political views or for their speech, if they're not threatening violence, you know, which is of course limited even in the first amendment as it should be. I think you're a hundred percent right. But that can seem pretty abstract to people, especially if they're not wanting to spend the rest of their life becoming tech savvy, which I empathize with.
5 (55m 58s):
But I do have a suggestion at times like this, there are very radical technologies that have been in use for hundreds and hundreds of years and some of them for thousands of years and the digital drama of the last 20 or 30 years has really kind of made us think that they're not useful. They're not important. They're not fancy enough, but what I've been people is in addition to, you know, creating other digital environments and challenging, I really respect the many lawyers for suing Big Tech and, and suing, you know, not just for censorship, but for all kinds of medical coercion and so on and suing governors for tyranny in this time, we're in, that's really important, but I've been telling people to go to, to kind of highlight and showcase and build up again the analog world, the human world.
5 (56m 52s):
And what do I mean by that? I was speaking to an audience of about 300 people over the weekend and they were gathered in a tent, you know, and no one could surveil us. I mean, obviously there were infiltrators, of course it was a peaceful gathering, but it was a very powerful formidable technology. People gathering in the town hall, people gathering. I mean, there used to be speeches on, you know, speakers corner in, in London or in Hyde park or, you know, in, in lower Manhattan of thousands and thousands of people and someone would stand on a soap box and speak and, or, you know, whistle stops, you know, someone would go through the country and thousands of people would come to hear them and they would speak.
5 (57m 36s):
And this was before digital technology. That may seem very cumbersome, but it's also incredibly robust because people can see each other, they don't feel alone. They see that they're in a kind of peaceful army and nothing can stop you from hearing a human speaker by the same token paper and pencil. It's radical, you know, books. They can't be deleted. You know, the, the whole thing about lockdown is it need assembly illegal. And it, it drove out of business, your local bookstore, where someone could say, you know what? This paper book is really fantastic. You've got to read it. So it was all Amazon and Amazon's algorithms and people are telling me, you know, Amazon is saying, they don't think they lost your book in transit or whatever.
5 (58m 22s):
The, and it's also secure, like gathering in your home with your friends, which was illegal in many ways, many lockdown states, that's a radical thing to do to communicate information. And it's also secure in ways. I mean, you mentioned the Canadian ownership of rumble, I believe. Well, it's terrifying to me that I've been going to state legislatures and people don't even know that their state houses are closed. 47. Us states are under emergency law, but also the business of state houses is being conducted on zoom. And zoom is a Chinese owned company, or rather it has a member of the Chinese communist party, you know, at a senior level, you know, and it's not secure and something that a very sophisticated person who advises the Canadian parliament, Steve Waterhouse told me early on in the pandemic is he said, this is a hack.
5 (59m 20s):
And what he meant, it's a set of policies and a real crisis. But I think he meant it's a set of policies designed to drive all of our IP, all of our relationships, all of our corporate secrets onto digital platforms that can then be sucked up for stolen, right. And also to drive all of our kids education, all human interaction onto digital platforms so that we feel, we can't just communicate with each other as human beings anymore without being vulnerable to a third digital third party. And I just tell people, you know, yes, build up your digital platforms, but Twitter deplatformings deep platforming me hasn't silenced me.
5 (1h 0m 4s):
You know, people were able to speak before these tech companies monopolized speech. So I really encourage people to go back two and champion and the analog world, paper books, and human contact and human assembly. It's not as tacky as it sounds. It's actually quite sophisticated.
0 (1h 0m 24s):
Yeah. It's pretty revolutionary nowadays to just live in real life and kind of unplug, I think that's, that's pretty special. Can you tell me, why do you think that there aren't other people in the left kind of pushing back on this tyranny? You know, this is something the left supposedly always did, you know, stood up against government overreach, a bank against corporations. And, and then recently people in the left-hand become these very passive obedient people. So what were the leaders, you know, like, like yourself, why are there so few of you, do you think,
5 (1h 0m 59s):
Oh, that's a really important question. I just want to echo that you're right. Historically it has been the left and certainly liberals like myself who have the tradition of human rights, freedoms of speech democracy. I mean, the revolutions across Europe of 1848 were called liberal revolutions to expand voting rights, to expand freedoms of speech, to, you know, strengthen constitutional democracies or rather than Europe parliaments. These came out of the liberal tradition and fast-forwarding to the 20th century, the great censorship trials from, you know, how to lady Chatterley's lover, the champions were on the left and it traditionally has been Republicans and conservatives who were seen as repressive and against freedom of expression.
5 (1h 1m 57s):
The left has been for freedom of sexual choice, you know, freedom of, of lifestyle choice. And so it's shocking to me that in 15 months, many of my people have embraced tyranny because it's their guy and their girl doing the tyranny. And I lived through this and the Obama years, a little bit, I, president Obama was a much better precedent, but I need you to go as far with the tyranny, but he, he did some terrible things. You know, he had a kill list and he was taking on Americans with drones and he was going after whistleblowers. And there were like three people, myself and Glenn Greenwald and a handful of others on the left who stood up and said, no, it's as bad to have a tyrant on our side as to have a tyrant from the other side.
5 (1h 2m 47s):
So right now, why is the left? Why, why is it so lonely out here? I mean, I do meet a lot of liberals at a grassroots level who feel the way I do, like what happened. And it's very disorienting. I mean, Janine units is a wonderful colleague and friend of mine who is very outspoken as a lawyer against vaccine coercion and against lockdowns. And she, and I talk about how like overnight thoughtful open-minded people who used to believe in my body, my choice became like cult members almost, and especially around COVID in the lockdowns. Mmm. And I think the reasons are complex.
5 (1h 3m 28s):
I think power is a great seducer and people work so hard to get bidon into the office that they don't want to jeopardize anything by saying, but wait a minute, he's destroying our economy and torturing are children, and it's all without science. And there are conflicts of interest with his chief medical advisor. They want that to go away. They don't want to rock the boat, but honestly I think this vast funding of community groups and news organizations and even religious organizations and universities by the bill and Melinda gates foundation, which has mostly happened on the left, has really silenced in and bought off a lot of people who would otherwise be leaders.
5 (1h 4m 14s):
And sadly, I think if you tease that out enough, bill gates is deeply invested with the Chinese communist party. He started a $300 million partnership with China. So right now you have major, major, bad actors kind of subverting and destroying what would be the leadership of the United States, certainly on the left. I'm sure they'd like to do it on the right. I don't think the relationships are as robust yet, but they're, they're doing it too weak in the United States. And to hand us over, you know, without any bullets being fired or blood being shed, you know, to our biggest adversary in geopolitics. And I don't think it's like intentional completely on the part of bill gates or Big Tech, but I think a lot of interests are aligning at our expense and seducing the, the left is part of that.
0 (1h 5m 8s):
All, all the incentives are in the wrong place and you've got, yeah, you, you've got these unholy alliances as you them and yeah. So thank you for clarifying that. And I hope it doesn't staying lonely for you. I hope more people kind of follow your lead and feel encouraged and everything because there is the grassroots kind of level of solidarity where you have parents pushing back against certain policies at the school board level and, and so forth on the left and the right things that are just kind of shared between both political parties. But, you know, I do wonder how popular Biden really was or is he reminds me more of like a Hillary Clinton where a lot of the people where there was a lot of support for Bernie kind of just got lumped in with the main, you know, you know, when Bernie kind of endorsed the main candidates, people went along with it, but they didn't really resonate or like the main candidates.
0 (1h 6m 8s):
And it's really demonstrated when you look at like Donald Trump's social media likes and dislikes versus Biden's, you know, it's like, unbelievable it, Trump does a rally, you'll see like, you know, hundreds of thousands of views and likes. And if Biden gives a speech, it's, it's more dislikes than likes. And so the, there doesn't seem to be like everyone on the left is like cheerleading Biden. It's more like, they're like, oh no, we're stuck with this guy. You know, you would think that that would be a situation that's ripe for them to start to rebel against that authority.
5 (1h 6m 43s):
But I mean, we are in a very difficult position. You know, I've been kind of being very honest with my side of the aisle, but I have to be honest with conservatives as well as horrible and frightening as the alliances to suppress freedoms are on the democratic side right now. I didn't feel that I had a choice in, in, in voting for Biden. And you guys have to, I mean, not you guys, I don't know exactly your politics, but the conservatives, you know, it's more important than ever for us to come together as Americans and, and find each other again, in civil dialogue as Americans and embrace what we do share, you know, we can certainly debate and argue about what we don't agree on, but we're under attack right now.
5 (1h 7m 31s):
And, you know, w and it's serious. We're going to lose our country and lose our children's future. Unless we stand up with one another across the aisle as Americans. But having said that just like we have to clean house, and we have to, you know, face the fact that we could have been co-opted by a really evil, super power and Big Tech working hand in hand. I do think it's important. So important for, for conservatives to face. Why people like me couldn't vote for Trump, you know, everything from it feeling like there's no environmental movement advocated, even though a lot of conservatives are ardent environmentalists to unnecessarily hateful language around, you know, homophobia and transphobia to unnecessarily, you know, rigid and sometimes abusive language on reproductive rights.
5 (1h 8m 28s):
I mean, there's no reason conservatives can't stand up for their values without demonizing and alienating people and sounding sometimes like racist or misogynist. And, you know, we need to clean our house and you need to clean yours.
0 (1h 8m 46s):
Well, thank you for your insights and your analysis. I appreciate it. It's always good to have a healthy debate. So, you know, people can check out your books, your, your websites, you're putting out a lot of good stuff. We displayed that in your lower thirds. Here's the book outrageous. That's the latest book, right? Naomi. Yeah. That's the latest book that you wrote too. The people that can check that out and thank you so much for your time. That's the end of our show today and next, we have peace centrally at 7:00 PM. Eastern.
5 (1h 9m 22s):
Thank you so much. I really appreciate this discussion.